outline revised

I.Introduction
II. Community college as a stepping stone to four year institutions.
ii.Statistics of those who transfer to schools such as Rutgers. Dean Robin Diamonds interview. The background on
community colleges, for example : did society and the government just throw this standing of being a place to go to aid
in getting into 4 year schools. how come they are not prepared from the types of students that come there? (still trying
to find this information.) does going to community college really save you money or in the end is it worth it because
when you go to a four year institution not all of your credits transfer and some times you fail courses leading you to
have to stay
longer which costs more money.
III. The types of students that attend RUTGERS and why is it that those types of students attend.
iii.What do community colleges do about those students who are exceptional when it comes to school considering that
those students who attend community college normally do not know what they want to do in life or the fact that they
don't do good in high school.
IV. The depiction of community college in fiction.
iv. What does this representation in fiction portray? does it compare to reality? scholarly sources show the views of
community college and the ways that community colleges act on that vision.
V. The transfer process.
v. What community colleges have to say on transferring. Do they encourage transferring or do they encourage students
to take their time and finish out with an associates degree.

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Outline
I. introduction- Argument : the fact of whether or not community colleges are acting as stepping stones to four-year universities
a. introduce my main argument and the scholarly works.
ii. first body paragraph
b. explain what community colleges are portrayed as. why they seem to be beneficial over going to a four-year school right away. i need to gather statistics to to show the money saved from going to community college before attending a major university.
iii. community college as a stepping stone to four-year institutions
c. in this part of my paper i plan on identifying the statistics that i've gathered on the success rates of those students who transfer to four-year schools from community college. These statistics will prove how most students are not prepared coming from a community school rather than transferring from a four year school. in the end these statements will prove how even though its stated that your saving money, in the long run you will most likely need to take extra classes because you either failed or didn't have enough credits transferred.
iv. the aid for the transfer process provided by rutgers needs to it in somewhere in my paper to identify how the transfer process works and to prove that not all classes credit's transfer so it lays out the appropriate courses that you should be taking. in this portion i also plan on putting in information from dean diamond that gives statistics and her view on those students transferring from community colleges to rutgers.
v. Representing community college in fiction
d. community college in fiction is a very big deal because that is the vision that everyone holds to be true because everyone relies on television and advertisements for their main source of information. this topic contradicts the reality of community colleges in real life which is a main contributor in the portrayal of what community college really does and what it is like. In this paragraph i will be comparing the views of community college n fiction and the way it i completely different from the real world.
vi. conclusion

Blog 11

My case are the fictional works that represent community college in the wrong light. One of those fictions is the television show called Community. In the show the students have to take physical education just like in high school when they have to change and the thing they are learning is billiards. The teacher acts like a child when it comes to drama between the students. this representation of community college shows that it is a joke and a walk in the park because of the way that the students act towards their education. I have not yet reached an episode that demonstrates community colleges as a successfull stepping stone but the students in the community college have restarted school as an older student who plans on just completing a degree at the community college. i also plan to keep on looking through tv shows and movies to find the more fictional representations of community colleges compared to real life.



My counter case is that of the reality of community colleges. In order to represent this counter case i plan on interviewing dean diamond next week and a friend of mine that transfered from brookdale community college to rutgers. i want to focus on their struggles and see how well they succeed in specific courses

Blog 11

My case is whether or not community college is working as a stepping stone for four-year institutions.

Blog 10

The debate that i have found is that community colleges are good in the sense that they save you money by allowing you to take the classes that you would be taking at any other school for the first two years. Community colleges give you time to figure out what you want to do with your life and what you want to major in before waisting all your money at a place that doesn't offer what you want. The other side of this argument is that it is harder for students to succeed in four year instituions when coming from a community college because there preparation and background knowledge is not the same. Students seem to struggle in courses that are required such as expositroy writing 101 which demonstrates that although you saved money it may not be helping you in the future because you may have to stay extra time to finish credits and may not get the degree in the amount of time that you would like. Another problem is that not all credits from community colleges transfer to four year institutions which was a waste of your time and money for taking classes that will only hurt you in the long run. The writers that i have found that identify this debate are Brouke, who demonstrates the usage of promoting community college in fictional works, Laman, who demonstrates the transfer process for that of students tranfering here from community colleges. The author of Comparing the academic process of native and transfer students gives statistics of the success rate of transfer students. There are many books that seem as if they will help me, but i have not yet had a chance to read them.
The different sides focus on different aspects of the problem in the way that if one side was right then the other would not have any support. It is either that community college acts as an aid for four year schools or it is not. It is whether or not in the long run community college is as beneficial as it is promoted to be. One side of the debate sees the argument as if community college is the be all end all and forms their argument over the fact that they believe community college is the way to go. The other side of the argument is that of the actual school that is dealing with the actual transfer students because it is their title that suffers if they do not have students succeeding. The four year schools have validation that for some, community colleges are not beneficial but for others they are.

Research blog 9

My research seems to be coming along, but i am having a few problems. i am having trouble finding sources that give me specific statistics on the success rates of students that transfer to Rutgers from community college. I do not believe that i have found specific key terms to help frame my argument, so i think i stll need to work on that. I do believe that i thnk i have chosen the right case because it seems that i have found substantial information to help me and i also believe that it is a relevant topic that the students of this decade are facing. I believe that i have found a few very substantial primary sources, so in that aspect i think i am doing well. My possible argument is coming along. It is that of whether or not community colleges are working as a two year to four year stepping stone for students. I have to pull all the information together to bring the product to the final drafting stage. i need to sit down with all my information and see what more i need to accomplish. I think right now i need to focus on what scholarly sources still need to get to satisfy my argument.

research in conversation

MY research question is that, are community colleges as a two year to four year stepping stone working for students?
in some of my research i came across the way that community colleges are portrayed in fiction. just as many other "norms" we live come from media, so does the way that we portray community colleges. according to Bourke, "the image of the community college as a stepping stone dominates fictional work. This is certainly an aspect of the community college that can be stressed during recruitment and admissons." This type of behavior seems to acknowledge the fact that in fiction community college is portrayed for the students who don't seem to do too well in high school and they use it as a drawing in tactic to show students that college is a completely different life and you can turn your grades around. however, that's also not a good thing because there are those students that are brilliant and can not seem to afford school that go there also so when it comes time for transfering it is not as easy.
Community colleges as a whole do not seem to be working as a stepping stone for four year institutions because the types of skills and learning tactics taught in community colleges do not prepare you for the types of classes at four year school. According to some studies " students who come to Rutgers from community colleges seem to struggle when taking expository writing 101" because the type of writing skills required to take this course are not implemented because at community college the teaching has to cover students of very high proficciency to very low. According to one study," Honors students comprise only 2% of community college students compared to 7% at four-year institutions." This type of statistic shows how those at community colleges have different learning styles and to compensate for those students the teacher has to teach so that the class can learn and be as strong as their weakest student.